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After talking to a few DIY promoters, I'm split on pay-to-play shows.
Some argue paying for stage time helps build a fanbase, while others think it exploits new artists, so what's your take?
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king.sage8mo ago
Actually, that whole "paying to build a fanbase" line is often a red flag. The problem is mixing up paying for a real show slot versus just buying tickets you have to sell. A sketchy promoter charging a band $500 to play a 20-minute set where they also have to sell 20 tickets is pure exploitation. But a legit DIY space might charge a flat $100 room fee to cover costs, which is different (you're renting the venue, not paying for audience). The first one takes advantage of new artists' hopes, while the second is just how some spaces stay open.
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noah_roberts8mo ago
Remember that time my cousin's band paid to open for a washed-up 90s act? They shelled out $300 for a slot and had to sell a bunch of tickets. The show was in a half-empty bar and the headliner never even showed up. It was a total scam that left them out of pocket and pissed off. Makes you wonder how many bands get sucked into that kind of thing.
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elliot8878mo ago
Portland's DIY scene often has $150 room fees with required pre-sales. That setup can still squeeze new bands pretty hard.
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matthewl678mo ago
My buddy's band lost $200 playing to staff at a pay-to-play show in Austin last spring.
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